098 - Vitamin C3 for Business: Connecting, Contributing, and Celebrating with Mary Gaul

[00:00:00] Writing a book can be the foundation for sharing your important message, but it won't work unless you are consistently marketing. This podcast is for those who have written a book to share their message with the world.

[00:00:15] I love talking all things authorpreneur and having guests join me to share their brilliance with you. Hello, Authorpreneurs. It's Suzanne Tregenza Moore and I am delighted to introduce you to a woman that I was introduced to by a wonderful friend, Amanda Miller.

[00:00:39] And she brought Mary Gaul into my life. Mary is the owner of two businesses for over 10 years. A speaker and author of two books, and she's a certified business coach who guides entrepreneurs

[00:00:56] to find practical solutions and new ideas for growth and success. She helps them to see the big picture, prioritize goals and strategies, and helps hold them accountable while having some fun and building joyful profits. And Mary's two books are Vitamin C3 for Business,

[00:01:18] 52 Ideas to Connect, Contribute and Celebrate Your Way to Success, and The Guests Are Here. And Mary, I'm so excited to have you here. Yes, I am excited. I love to talk about books and authorpreneurs and entrepreneurs and how we can share our knowledge. So I am just delighted

[00:01:39] that you agreed to have me on your show today. Oh, I'm so glad. And as soon as Amanda sent me some information about you, I was like, well, first of all, I love her. So this person must be

[00:01:50] awesome. And I just always know to take a good recommendation, right? Yeah. So tell me about your two books and how they came to life and how they relate to what you do today.

[00:02:05] Yes. Yes. So the first book I wrote is called The Guests Are Here. And it kind of came about because I had this thought. I had just left my corporate job the year before, was running my own

[00:02:17] business and I had seen other business owners have these books. But I was like, I don't know enough about business yet to really feel like I was an authority or had some, I was still in fire hose

[00:02:29] learning mode, right? When you that first year of business. But I had this idea that I wanted to write a book. And I kind of mentioned it to my husband. I was like, I think I might want

[00:02:38] to write a book someday. And he kind of rolled his eyes and I was like, Oh no, you didn't. Oh yeah. Right? That was his first mistake. Yeah. Like, oh yeah, watch this. Yeah. So I wrote the book, did the cover design myself,

[00:02:54] did the layout design myself. It's okay, you can tell it's a homemade book, right? I published it myself, it got to number one in its category. So it really was,

[00:03:04] I just kind of had this, once I decided that I wanted to write a book, I kind of had this download of what are my skill sets? What could I write a book about? And I love to entertain.

[00:03:14] I grew up in a big family of eight kids and two parents. So there's 10 of us, all of our friends and lots of cousins and lots of family. We always were having these big, you know, we just call them meals together. Other people would call them dinner parties.

[00:03:27] I was going to say like massive blowouts, except that they were just a dinner to you. Sunday afternoon gathering at our house with 20 people, right? So I just have always had that

[00:03:39] in there and I always loved to plan parties and do all that kind of stuff. So I was like, I know a lot about throwing dinner parties and I have a group that we call our supper club,

[00:03:48] right, that we had formed and meet for dinner once a month and, you know, rotated through and all this kind of stuff. So I said, I can write a book about throwing a party

[00:03:58] and how to be prepared and kind of take my strategic manager brain because that's kind of what I did in the corporate world and take this project management brain, apply it to entertaining

[00:04:09] and so that you can actually enjoy your dinner party and not be stuck in the kitchen by yourself all the time doing all the work, right? So there's stuff to plan ahead of time

[00:04:18] and recipes. And one of my favorite chapters in the book is called awkward. And it's those awkward party situations that happen, right? People show up with their dogs or their kids when

[00:04:28] it's an all adult party or you know, the toilet, your one toilet clogs and nobody does a bathroom or somebody has an allergic reaction. So there's just all kinds of those fun little things

[00:04:38] that happen and how do you deal with that as a hostess? Then there's a tips on being a good guest when you go to somebody's house and then, you know, and then if you wanted to start your

[00:04:47] supper club, if you wanted to start a group of friends to have for dinner, you know, I talk in there about the power of sitting down with people and having a meal together, right? It really

[00:04:57] does bring us together and connect us. We have deeper conversations and we can relate to people as human beings and not just clicks and follows and likes and that kind of stuff. And so

[00:05:07] I really think that's that was what I wanted to get across from that book is how do I help you enjoy entertaining and then if you're not an entertainer, how do you get comfortable having

[00:05:16] people into your house, you know, sharing a meal with somebody and that kind of thing. So that was the point of that book. And then, you know, going on, I think it was three years in between

[00:05:25] that book and the next book, the next book came about, I was still ran my first business, I had kind of transitioned out of that business. So I still own and operate it, but I have a team

[00:05:35] of people that are working in the business for me and I had started my coaching business and so felt like, okay, I know more about things that business owners need, right? I have more

[00:05:46] authority to say these are things that work for people, right? My discussions with my clients and then learning my own and running my own two businesses. And so I came up with this.

[00:05:59] I was doing a creative writing with a friend of mine who's a nonfiction writer. He's out there. And so he asked me if I would help him just kind of do a writing session once a week. So for a year,

[00:06:12] we met once a week at a coffee shop and we would just have creative writing time. Some Mondays, I would be like, why am I doing this? It's such a waste of my time. You know, I got work to be doing and I'm driving to this coffee shop

[00:06:25] doing these creative writing prompts and whatever. But it was fun. It was kind of a way to feed my creativity. But as we were, I learned multiple things from that year of writing, right?

[00:06:36] The first one was I am not a fiction writer. We would pull things out of an envelope. We'd have a topic. We wrote a bunch of fun topics down and we put them in an envelope. So sometimes we'd pull

[00:06:49] a topic out of the envelope and then we'd start writing or a situation or something. Every time it was a situational thing and we're trying to make characters talk to each other. Within three sentences, one character would just monologue us. I was like, okay,

[00:07:02] I know. I just want to tell people what to do. I don't want to have the conversations. Right. I mean, I have to say writing dialogue is tiresome, right? You have to do the commas

[00:07:14] and the quotes and the yeah. Oh, it's just a nuisance. Totally. Yeah. So I learned that that's not my skill set, right? And he is brilliant at that. He would take a scene and come

[00:07:26] up with this and I felt like I was watching a movie the way, you know, when I read it because it's just so much detail and the conversations. And I was like, okay, I don't have that skill set,

[00:07:34] which is okay. Totally. We need writers out there. Yes. Yes. But during the course of that year, I kept finding these little snippets and words that kept coming in almost regardless what the topic was we were writing on and it was the next contribute and celebrate. And I

[00:07:51] was like, what is up with those three words? They're in almost everything I write. There's some version of that in there. And I finally just got kind of another download at one point, right? Why don't you write a tips book using those three words connect, contribute and celebrate

[00:08:06] for business owners and how they can use those three principles to grow their business. And so then once I had that idea, I was like, okay, let's make it one a week, 52 weeks,

[00:08:16] I can come up with 52 ideas and the book was born. I love it. Vitamin C comes from. Yeah. That is so fun. So I have to ask you what's the first business that you have people running now?

[00:08:30] Yeah. So it's a virtual assistant company. It's called The Gift of Time. And we really support this, both businesses support the same kind of business owner. Absolutely. Smaller is trying to do everything themselves and they need somebody to just say, you know, like when

[00:08:44] I'm doing coaching or strategy with somebody, I can say, this is what you need to get done if they can't hear the team. Yeah. Here's a team that can help you get it done with the implementation and maintaining that, you know, ongoing service. So

[00:08:55] I knew that was going to be your answer. Do you know why I knew that was going to be your answer? Why? I did the same thing. Oh, good. Good for you.

[00:09:04] I had the same except that I let that business go. Yeah. Before I moved into coaching and I did it for the same reason. I wanted to coach people but I didn't feel like I had enough

[00:09:15] experience as a business owner and enough success as a business owner until after I created and ran the implementation station, which was my business. Nice. So I just, I was like, wow, parallel universe. Yes, I love it. I'm beauty queen. We're going to speak about it.

[00:09:35] Yes. Brilliant. Yes, brilliant. Well, enough about me because it's not about me. Anyway, I just, I had to go there. Yeah. So I love that your book came from these three themes

[00:09:51] that kept coming up for you. And before we started recording, we also, you also mentioned to me that your first book was also about connecting, you know, because you talked about connecting over the table and connecting through, you know, meals together and everything. And I love when

[00:10:10] you said, and I didn't realize that theme was in both books until later. Yeah. So I'm curious to know that when you came to that realization, what did it say to you about like how you really

[00:10:25] interact and how like what is most important to you? Because it was like, Oh, I've written about that twice now. Yes. Yeah. So what did it say to you? It just reaffirms who I am and how I show

[00:10:39] up every day. I teach a class that's part of this Pinnacle Success series. And the first one is called Pinnacle Gift, and it really helps us identify who we are and how we show up in the world

[00:10:50] and walk away from that day with a statement called your Pinnacle Gift statement. And when I reread the first sentence of my Pinnacle Gift statement, I'll just read it right now. So it's I create community and increase the energy, joy and well being of those around me through

[00:11:07] nurturing a warm genuine connection. Love that. That is who I am and how I show up. And I wrote this in between books, right? I came up with this statement. I took that course and now I

[00:11:17] teach that course to others. But I wrote that statement. And so I know if I start to feel a little scattered or, you know, off track or something. Yeah, I just go back and say,

[00:11:29] am I showing up in connection to people? Am I showing up in making warm genuine connections with people, right? Because that's what's important to me. And it's who I am and how I operate in the world, right? So the fact that it's in both of my books unintentionally.

[00:11:45] Yeah. Is fun to me. It just means I'm on track, the message is on track. And I'm in a new compilation book that came out recently called the Art of Connection.

[00:11:54] And in that, I have two pages. It's a compilation book where you get a page and there's 365 pages. So it's for a full day. Oh, wow. Okay. My adult daughter was home the weekend that the book came

[00:12:06] out. And so I had it on the table. And I was like, oh, read my two chapters or whatever. So she read them. And I was like, what did you think? And she's like, they're totally on brand. It's all about connection and celebration. I was like,

[00:12:16] okay, my daughter knows what my brand is. Yeah. Yeah. And I read those six months ago because I had to be turned in by a certain date. So I was like,

[00:12:25] sure. Okay, good. I know I'm glad that I'm still showing up in connection and that's who I am and how I'm, you know, what I'm writing about, how I interact with my clients, all of those kind

[00:12:37] of things. It means I'm showing up authentically to me, right? Yeah. Yeah. Totally. I can't get about it because it just happens naturally. And then you go back and you're like, oh, yeah,

[00:12:46] I did connect all those things. Absolutely. Yeah. I just love that because there are things we know about ourselves, but that doesn't mean we can't forget them sometimes or realize that we're not

[00:12:58] focusing on them. And yet some of them are so ingrained in who we are that it comes out regardless. And then we go, oh, right. I did that. Or oh, yeah. Okay. Well, that was me,

[00:13:11] wasn't it? Yeah. So I think that's fantastic. And then I think you told me you had another, a second compilation book that came out this year as well, right? Yes. Yes. It's called the

[00:13:23] 99 Author Project. And so again, I was interviewed six months ago by this woman who works with authors. And so she interviewed 99 authors and a variety of authors, right? And talked to

[00:13:37] us about what was our writing experience like? Why did we write our books? How have we used it to grow our business? Where are we using it for marketing or just speaking gigs or authority or

[00:13:49] selling books, right? Love that. Yeah. That's an interesting thing too because there's so many, like I said, there's different types of authors. I can't write in conversation. I know that's not a skill of mine. And so it's interesting to hear from all kinds of different authors and

[00:14:04] how they're using their books to grow their authority or grow their business or just get their message out in the world. Yeah, love it. That's fantastic. Yeah. So do you think that you've,

[00:14:17] like did you love to write when you were younger and it's come out? Or do you think you just had the, you said the first time you wrote your first book you said to your,

[00:14:28] I love that you said to your husband, I think I want to write a book and he kind of looked sideways and you were like, oh well. Yeah. When that came to you was it like a yearning? Was it

[00:14:38] something you knew you would always do or did you, was it kind of like a new thought? And you were like, I don't know where this is coming from but I think I'm going to write a book.

[00:14:47] It was a new thought for sure. It wasn't something I thought about growing up being a writer and I have terrible handwriting so growing up in the 70s and 80s before computers. Yeah. Handwriting everything and I just always hated writing because I don't like my handwriting.

[00:15:03] My mom did a handwriting analysis when I was in high school she took a class at the local college and she did my handwriting analysis. She's like, you're either brilliant or a serial killer.

[00:15:13] I don't know. I'm going to go with brilliant. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Hopefully she thought she was leaning that way as well. Yeah, she was leaning that way too. Yeah. Good. Good. But it never

[00:15:28] really occurred to me to write a book until you know just doesn't never occurred to me to start my own business until after I ran a law firm for 10 years and before that I worked in the

[00:15:40] corporate world for a large international organization and you know I just knew it was time for me to leave the law firm job but I didn't know what I was going to do and

[00:15:48] I had some friends encourage me to start my own business and I was like, what would I even do? Then once you expand to that possibility then you're like, okay, I can start this virtual

[00:15:58] assistant business. I know how to do a lot of things. Yeah. I can help a lot of people so I can start that business and then you're learning so much but then once you kind of

[00:16:07] get the groove of that you're like, oh that was a challenge accepted and conquered. Yeah. Yes. Right. What else could I what else is possible? It just opens your mind up to why can I write a book and as

[00:16:19] technology gets so much better out there and there's so many more tools and you know I had tools enough that I could do the layout in Word, right. I knew how to make chapters and headers and make

[00:16:31] it book format and put page numbers in and add some graphics here and there. You know I had some skills luckily I can do that on my own and then I took the picture on the cover of

[00:16:40] the book is from my front porch. I took a picture of my front porch, the welcome sign you know and was able to create the book cover because of the tools that were there already were decent enough

[00:16:51] that I could create my own book and get it uploaded on Amazon and do all that kind of stuff right so sure because I had some of those admin and tech skills right yeah. Yeah. The admin business so

[00:17:03] but now the tools are so much better and with my second book I mean they are night and day difference when you look at them as far as the quality of the book right. The second one I

[00:17:13] hired somebody to do the layout and I hired somebody to do the cover design and all of that kind of stuff and so it just looks like a more professional book right sure yes you can do it

[00:17:23] yourself and the tools are making it easier and easier to do that if you so if you have a message that you want to get out I think it's just so powerful people say here's my message

[00:17:33] and here's my story I want to share it with other people yeah that's one of the the things I talk about in the vitamin c3 and the contribute part so it's connect contribute and celebrate

[00:17:42] is don't be a knowledge hoarder hoarder right yeah that's right your knowledge because we are all learning so many things all the time and why not share those things that you're learning with other

[00:17:54] people or share your experiences to help somebody else through that journey so I just love the tools I love how easy it is and if somebody feels called to do it then you know follow

[00:18:05] that urge make it happen that's easier and there's professionals like you that can help them and right there's all kinds of people that can help kind of get that book out of your head and into

[00:18:16] you know paper or Kindle or whatever whatever format people want it in yes yeah they can get your message out there right yes absolutely so let me ask you this how long has vitamin c3

[00:18:29] for business been out it came out in 2017 oh so a while okay yeah it's been a while so tell me how how do you use it in your business how do you use it to introduce yourself to people tell me about

[00:18:44] that yeah so I still do talks about it so I have a keynote speech around the vitamin c3 how to connect contribute and celebrate so I do that it's still running in my social media posts you

[00:18:57] know my team from the gift of time does my social media and they still rotate in two or three times a month you know quotes or you know those kind of things tips from the book and so that still

[00:19:08] generates some interest I give it to all of my new clients when I when they sign up for with my coaching or my peer advisory boards then I make sure it's in their welcome packet right so

[00:19:19] they're like wow I got a signed book from my coach right so it's kind of that authority builder as well absolutely yeah yeah yeah so I just like having that it's something good to fall back

[00:19:31] on and you know when he when I said 2017 it kind of makes me cringe a little because in the back of the book I say this is the first of three books by the way for business and then there's supposed

[00:19:41] to be vitamin c3 for your family connect contribute and celebrate and then vitamin c3 for your community connecting contribute and celebrate and so I was at an event a couple months ago and somebody had read my book recently and which is just still amazing to me that people

[00:19:58] actually read words that I know right yeah I feel that way every time somebody says I read your book I'm like you did you know yeah not just my family read it but somebody I don't know read it

[00:20:11] anyway she said in the back of the book you talk about the next two books when are they coming out and I was like oh I didn't think people were really good at reading you're like oh I thought yeah oh

[00:20:25] but I have collected stories for those two books I just haven't I don't know what it is the download completely hasn't or the urge hasn't hit me yet to do it to do those other two books but at the time

[00:20:36] I was writing this one I was like this is great I want to share these tips for how to do it with your family because we grew up you know connecting contributing and celebrating within our large

[00:20:45] circle a family right so I could share tips there and then the community one really interviewing other people and getting how did they connect and contribute and celebrate within their community

[00:20:55] so I think both of those are still needed they just haven't you know the timing has to be right the urge has to be right it's a lot of work to write a book yeah yeah it is so I just haven't

[00:21:06] set that time aside because the urge hasn't been there enough but well the good news is you've still got time yeah yeah yeah and at some point either the urge will come and you'll be like

[00:21:18] and now it is time right you know what you'll be like really it doesn't matter if I ever do that right yeah yeah awesome well there are a few questions that I ask everyone who comes on and

[00:21:31] I want to ask those of you so the first is and I think this one goes to what we were just talking about do you think you'll write another book yes I started to write a book during COVID two

[00:21:49] different books based on ideas that kind of are downloaded to me or ones around another family thing that I grew up with our we created kind of this holiday called thank miss in our family because

[00:21:59] we are lovely family so the second week of December we get together and then we can don't have to worry about traveling on Thanksgiving or Christmas right so it's been just we've been

[00:22:08] doing it for 28 years this year and it's been a game changer for our family so I started writing that book like kind of how the concept how it's worked and stories about different thinkmases

[00:22:19] and that kind of stuff so but then that kind of got pushed to the side yeah and then another one was a topic just a way another way to connect which is funny I'm just kind of connecting

[00:22:29] the dots here today it's another way to connect to people right and and it turned out I didn't want to write kind of that woo woo energy book but that's really what this tool is this kind of tool

[00:22:40] that was downloaded for me and so it really is dependent on the energy exchange between people even if it's on zoom or you know people you can picture around the world and I just was like I

[00:22:51] don't know how to write this so it's not too woo woo so then I just kind of wrote a little bit there and put that on the shelf so those two are sitting out there in the wings whether

[00:23:00] whether I pick them up and decide to make it happen or go back to one of the vitamin c3 books or something new may come along right so who knows absolutely yeah yes there's definitely more than

[00:23:14] one book left in me or one or two books left in me I'll figure out what they're going to be when they show up excellent excellent I just want to share with you I know a lot of people

[00:23:23] who've written books that some people would say are quote unquote to woo woo but the people that want those books don't feel that way yes so you know just I tell my clients all the time it's like

[00:23:38] all those messages you need to hear back to yourself all the time yeah people that need to hear it will hear it right hear it and we'll want to hear it we'll want to hear it right yeah okay so

[00:23:48] the next the next question I ask everyone who comes on and I know you're gonna have a good one for this is what is something you think every entrepreneur needs to do or have in order to be successful

[00:24:02] oh my gosh there's so many things I know there are so many things there are so many things but a good support system I think is key yeah whether that's a coach a networking group

[00:24:17] other entrepreneurs not your not your girlfriends not your spouse or significant other right unless they're a business owner but they are not going to get it they're not going to get your struggles

[00:24:27] they're not going to understand how hard it is and why some days you want to quit but you don't feel like you can't quit because you've invested all this time and you really want

[00:24:34] to make it work yeah so really having some kind of support system where you people you can call and celebrate with you know at the end of the day when you have something big or when you just land

[00:24:45] that first client or you get to say no to a client you don't want to work with or you've got your website up or whatever it is right other entrepreneurs that know what it took to make

[00:24:53] that happen yeah because celebrated at a deeper level with you or when you need that encouragement you're just like I'm ready to go be a greeter at Walmart because I don't want to do this

[00:25:04] off those days yeah since it's not easy to run a business and so even if it's something that you love and adore and you just are passionate about there's a lot of work that it takes and so really

[00:25:15] find find your community find your tribe that you can go and share those highs with and the lows with yes and with people to understand what it what it is to have those in your business so

[00:25:26] that would be absolutely so important I just for the record I just want to say that when I have those moments I don't think of going to work at Walmart I skew target I'm just saying okay yeah

[00:25:36] target yes yes I skew target Pascua is me right so I just want to go make pies at Costco all day there you go yeah yeah so last question of the ones that I ask everyone who comes on what is your

[00:25:49] favorite book oh goodness and then a book club so I get exposed to all kinds of good books to pop to mind so bell canto by Anne patch it I don't know why fabulous right outstanding

[00:26:03] book but it's just really stuck with me I read it probably 10 years ago and it's really just has sticks with me it pulls my heart strings the other one is another one that I read last

[00:26:13] year two years ago called we are the lucky ones or we were the lucky ones and it's semi Autobagbi agriful it's follows this Jewish family that gets spread out through the Holocaust

[00:26:26] right there's five kids and the two parents and they all go different ways and some end up in concentration camps some end up in hiding some end up in Italy and some get in the war and

[00:26:36] I'm like this vastly different experience of the Holocaust and somehow they all survive and back together and then they go back about living their normal lives and so the granddaughter of one

[00:26:50] of these people one of the five comes and she is talking to her cousin someday and they mentioned something about their grandfather being in the Holocaust and she's like what are you talking

[00:27:00] about we live in New York they've we've always lived in New York nobody's ever mentioned the Holocaust to us and she starts retracing the story of this her real family story and this

[00:27:09] book about what happened to each of them and it's just so powerful to hear those stories and then the connections that they had in the horrors that they all went through in different different

[00:27:20] different ways that right so it was just really well written and yeah it was really it was a good book it stuck it stuck with me for a long time too yeah yeah interesting I have not heard of

[00:27:32] that one obviously I've heard of Anne Patchett and she's a wonderful writer but those are two great recommendations for sure yes so thank you for sharing them you're welcome I know that you

[00:27:46] have a gift for our audience today and I'm wondering if you want to share what that is and I want to assure everyone that the link to it will be in our show notes so you don't have to

[00:27:56] feverishly write it down right now yes awesome awesome yes so one of the things in vitamin C3 is connect contribute and celebrate right so last year I came out with a new keynote talk

[00:28:08] all about the power of celebration because it's so important when you're writing a book whether you're you know launching a business you're running your business it's easy to slide into that burnout

[00:28:19] and overwhelm phase if we don't stop and celebrate all those small little victories like I wrote a chapter today or I wrote 500 words today or I have an idea for my book and I'm going to write

[00:28:31] that idea down today right stop and celebrate those moments so that we can keep ourselves motivated to keep going on and so I tell the story in this keynote about one of my sisters who passed away

[00:28:43] suddenly a few well it's been five years ago now so but when she passed away I went to her house with her kids to kind of figure out what the next steps were and walked into her kitchen and I saw her

[00:28:55] to-do list on the counter because so picture it so clearly and I just stopped and I thought we're gonna die with things on our to-do list what am I putting on my to-do list right

[00:29:05] but this is the stuff that's on there that I'm just like does it really matter or is it worth celebrating and I just had this kind of thought pattern say why don't people create celebration

[00:29:16] checklist so instead of a to-do list create a celebration checklist right so that's what I have for the audience today is a celebration checklist it's really bright fun colors and all that kind of stuff and it talks about how important celebration is and you can print

[00:29:30] it out and write your own celebrations and kind of just track those things because we don't sometimes wait for the big things or we know how to celebrate the big things but we forget to celebrate all those

[00:29:39] little wins along the way and so if you start to track those things you know what we what we put our intentions on we draw more of so why not celebrate might not have more celebration in

[00:29:49] our lives so like you mentioned I will put give you the link and you can put the information in the show notes so that everybody can go and download that and I encourage you

[00:29:57] to start celebrating all those little things along the way wow I have to tell you I think I got chills when you said you saw your sister's checklist yeah I did excuse me you know to do

[00:30:10] list I mean that's especially when it's a sudden death for someone to you know the things on the counter right the way she left things and yeah to have a to-do list there

[00:30:23] like that really hits home to me yes and I can imagine it was a profound moment for you and it's not surprising that it made you really stop and think yeah yeah thank you for sharing that

[00:30:38] thank you for sharing the gift with everyone and most especially thank you for spending some time with me today and sharing your experiences of writing and how you use your books and is there anything else you want to share with the audience before we wrap up today

[00:30:54] just a big thank you to you Suzanne for having me as a guest and for all the work that you do to help you know business owners and authors get their messages out there I think it's one of the

[00:31:05] things that connects us again go back to that connection word right it's one of the things that can connect us stories really can connect us to each other so if I'm reading in a book

[00:31:14] listening to a story on a podcast or something if I can connect and know that there's another person in the world feeling what I'm feeling wow that just makes me feel not so alone not so isolated

[00:31:25] and that is what's going to help save humanity right totally yes we need to reconnect with each other as human beings and stories really help us do that so get your story out there hire a

[00:31:37] professional to help you do it if you feel you need to and and let the world know your stories love it thank you so much and I just want to share a reminder that Mary Gaul's books are

[00:31:50] vitamin c3 for business 52 ideas to connect contribute and celebrate your way to success and the guests are here love that thank you so much for being with us and to all those listening thank you and I look forward to bringing another episode of all things author pre-noir

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